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It was decided upon to use "Orville" as the new brand name, dedicating the brand to the founding father.

For example, some Epiphone Les Paul models use bolt-on neck construction and "slab" bodies which are generally less expensive to manufacture, while others stick with tradition and have arched maple tops and glued-in necks like their high-end Gibson counterparts.

As opposed to a brand such as Fender, whose guitars are either made in America or Mexico, Epiphone's guitars can come from a number of different factories in a variety of countries.

For this reason, it is not as easy to know where each guitar comes from or when it was made.

While that initial step was instrumental in moving towards continuous improvement and independence, Epiphone knew that ultimately it needed its own dedicated factory with its own employees.

In late 2001 Gibson luthier Mike Voltz, and a team from Epiphone set out to change the guitar world as it was then known. Voltz and other Epiphone and Gibson personnel became intimately involved in facility layout, equipment design, training techniques and the establishment of quality control and by October of 2002, the Epiphone only Gibson Qingdao factory had become a reality.

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Regards, kcbuck There is no Epiphone "Les Paul Limited Edition" listed in the Blue Book.

Many collector friends have said that they think the Orville by Gibsons are overall better guitars andwhile this may be so, many collectors have disagreed with this notion.

There were many high-end and mid-range models of these guitars under both logos; I think mainly that the model number and original price dictated quality, not particularly the logo.

The problem with that scenario is that it's difficult, if not impossible, to have a substantially better instrument than your competition when the parts, process and people who make them are the same.

As a result, Epiphone established the first permanent presence by an American guitar brand in 1992 with the opening of our Epiphone Korea office which played a daily hands-on role in selecting and sourcing parts and materials as well as closely controlling quality.